{"id":5372,"date":"2021-12-30T19:54:13","date_gmt":"2021-12-31T01:54:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/?p=5372"},"modified":"2023-08-28T13:55:02","modified_gmt":"2023-08-28T19:55:02","slug":"genesis-3413","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/?p=5372","title":{"rendered":"Genesis 34:13-24"},"content":{"rendered":"

13\u00a0<\/sup>But the sons of Jacob answered Shechem and Hamor his father, and spoke deceitfully, because he had defiled Dinah their sister.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

14\u00a0<\/sup>And they said to them, \u201cWe cannot do this thing, to give our sister to one who is uncircumcised, for that would be a reproach to us.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

15\u00a0<\/sup>But on this condition we will consent to you: If you will become as we are, if every male of you is circumcised,<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

16\u00a0<\/sup>then we will give our daughters to you, and we will take your daughters to us; and we will dwell with you, and we will become one people.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

17\u00a0<\/sup>But if you will not heed us and be circumcised, then we will take our daughter and be gone.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

18\u00a0<\/sup>And their words pleased Hamor and Shechem, Hamor\u2019s son.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

19\u00a0<\/sup>So the young man did not delay to do the thing, because he delighted in Jacob\u2019s daughter. He was more honorable than all the household of his father.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

20\u00a0<\/sup>And Hamor and Shechem his son came to the gate of their city, and spoke with the men of their city, saying:<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

21\u00a0<\/sup>\u201cThese men are at peace with us. Therefore let them dwell in the land and trade in it. For indeed the land is large enough for them. Let us take their daughters to us as wives, and let us give them our daughters.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

22\u00a0<\/sup>Only on this condition will the men consent to dwell with us, to be one people: if every male among us is circumcised as they are circumcised.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

23\u00a0<\/sup>Will not their livestock, their property, and every animal of theirs be ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

24\u00a0<\/sup>And all who went out of the gate of his city heeded Hamor and Shechem his son; every male was circumcised, all who went out of the gate of his city.<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n

we will become one people (v.16) \u2014 We aren’t told what Jacob thought of all this. He knew God had called his people to be a separate nation. Did he think circumcising the Shechemites would solve this issue? Wechsler thinks so (below). Or was he party to the plot to kill the Shechemites? Or had he left and not heard this part of the conversation? He was angry with Simeon and Levi after the fact (v.30).<\/h3>\n

Pretending to go along with Hamor’s proposition that there should be general intermarriage between the two peoples, with consequent commercial advantage to both, they said that the only problem was a religious one. It was their religious conviction that every male in their own nation should be circumcised. If indeed they were from that time on to be one people, then the Shechemites also would need to be circumcised. Otherwise, they would have to take Dinah back and keep the two peoples completely segregated in the future. Whether the other brothers knew about the murderous plan or not, the Bible is not clear, but it was Simeon and Levi who carried it out. \u2014 Morris, pages 512-513.<\/span><\/h3>\n

the gate of their city (v.20) \u2014 At this time, the gate of the city was where the men met and conducted business.<\/h3>\n

There were certain other nations, beside the Israelites, who practiced circumcision in early times, so that the terms of the agreement did not sound too strange or offensive to the men of Shechem. Hamor gathered them all together at the city’s gate, and laid the whole proposition before them, stressing that they would eventually own all the property of the Israelites as well as have access to their women. The men of Shechem were easily persuaded by such inducements. \u2014 Morris, page 513.<\/span><\/h3>\n

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The petition [for Shechem to marry Dinah] is made also in the presence of Jacob’s sons, who, though grieved and angry over the crime, nonetheless agree to the marriage\u2014with Jacob’s implicit approval\u2014on the condition that every male among Shechem’s people be circumcised and thus become one people with the family of Israel. Implicit in this arrangement, since the Schchemites are uniting with Israel on Israel’s terms<\/em>, is submission to the God of Israel (i.e., conversion) and hence inclusion in the Abrahamic Covenant of which circumcision is the outward sign (see Genesis 17:11<\/span><\/a>). \u2014 Wechsler, page 241.<\/span><\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

13\u00a0But the sons of Jacob answered Shechem and Hamor his father, and spoke deceitfully, because he had defiled Dinah their sister. 14\u00a0And they said to them, \u201cWe cannot do this thing, to give our sister to one who is uncircumcised, … Continue reading →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5372","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-genesis"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5372","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5372"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5372\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8371,"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5372\/revisions\/8371"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5372"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5372"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/versebyverse.carpelibra.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5372"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}